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This is the Babylon Bee Interview Show.

In this episode of The Babylon Bee Podcast, Kyle and Ethan welcome back Christian apologist Greg Koukl of Stand To Reason. He is the author of Tactics and The Story of Reality. They analyze celebrity quotes about God and religion, discuss the horrors of the 20th century world wars, and reveal how Greg would convert Lady Gaga in 30 seconds using his tactics. They also get into the concept of “wokeness” and how awful a lot of modern worship songs really are.

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Topics Discussed

• The Greg Koukl Vs. Deepak Chopra faceoff

• Celebrity quotes about God (Woody Allen, Penn Jillette, Ricky Gervais, H.P. Lovecraft, Lady Gaga) 

• Running the Gauntlet

• Douglas Axe’s book Undeniable 

• The Strawman Fallacy

• Religion causing more war than atheism? 

• Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Hitler

• Indoctrination and reading non-Christian books

• Illiberal bullying and bludgeoning

• Christian schools excluding non-Christians

• ‘Practical suicide’ (Being what you condemn)

• “LGBTQ Christians”

• Converting Lady Gaga in 30 seconds using Tactics

• Critical Race Theory infiltrating the church

• Intersectionality and social justice

• Greg’s book Tactics

• Greg’s book The Story of Reality

Subscriber Portion

• Stephen Colbert and atheists/agnostics

• Jordan Peterson’s tactics on this interview

• On not being good enough or virtuous enough to become a Christian?

• What the Bible says about “wokeness” 

• Subscriber-submitted questions

• Is God’s love reckless? And other thoughts on modern worship songs

• Miscellaneous heresies

• The Ten Questions